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well speaking in broad terms ofc
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:04 AM
Unfortunately true. Scitzophrenia is especially hard to treat
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The best you can do is stop or slow down the decline
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Less than 10% actually return to normal functioning
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And PTSD the best treatment is counseling
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Because unfortunately the only drugs that work are ones given just after the trauma has happened
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After that there's essentially nothing except possibly fringe shit like magic mushrooms
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treatment for DID is in three stages, which I'll simplify to "make sure you aren't going to immediately kill yourself, get stronger mentally, use your strength to rewire your brain and make big changes"
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:07 AM
Which won't be clinically usable for decades probably
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Unfastened Belts 9/23/2020 3:07 AM
Excuse me, fringe? I just took some today :p Wholeheartedly recommend
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drugs are only really useful in that first one, sometimes, and maybe some shit like an SSRI for the second one, but DID isn't really something that psych meds are for imo as a crutch, but not as long-term management
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my darkest pit, I wouldn't wish away, it taught me something
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even thought it also sucked ass
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:08 AM
That's really understandable
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I remember this chart well, it was one of the things that made me go "fuck"
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:10 AM
Mood swings mania and panic attacks on that list gulp
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naw but it's all about how like, see in my life
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I've had things that are just so confusing to outside people, like "why is this happening?"
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like phobias but I don't look scared ever
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or suicidality when "nothing is wrong"
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:11 AM
Ive literally had all that except substance abuse gulp but yeah lots of mental issues cause lots of crossover
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but the core of it was this hidden shit, that flew under the radar
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yeah
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that's the thing, with DID it's often very covert, not in that "ohhh I didn't now I had DID!!!" but that it's not uncommon to be going, "this doesn't line up! it doesn't make sense!"
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and then the core is really this batshit chronic dissociation
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that was really the linchpin for me
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:12 AM
Well I'm glad you found out what it was
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even in middle school I said, I really remember saying, "I am the most dissociative person I have ever met"
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:12 AM
Its pretty nightmarish not knowing what's wrong with you (edited)
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maybe that was a clue lmao, being that much off the bell curve
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yeah
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I worried a lot I was a prodrome schiozophrenic
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:13 AM
You had alters before tulpas
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I did indeed
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:13 AM
Shouldn't that scream DID?
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Gavin was a special one, much more developed and individualized
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it wasn't like that
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see I would google shit like "hearing voices" and it would all be about how they must be crazy
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and stuff with DID also said that it was caused by trauma and "I ain't ever had nothing bad happen to me!!!"
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....denial was a big factor
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:14 AM
Weirdly enough hearing voices is absurdly common
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so, long story short, Gavin eventually left/went dormant because he thought he would make me crazy
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and I kept googling every now and again for a few years
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refusing to accept the possibility of DID because "I'm not crazy and Gavin was great"
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then I stumble upon these tulpa thingss
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:15 AM
I also used to say that
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"Oh shit! Gavin was one of those!"
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:15 AM
That I didnt go through anything particularly bad
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"I need to make a new one, to get that sort of relationship back in my life!"
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that's how Cassidy happened, two years ago
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then uhhhh about a month in we brought Gavin back because it works like that lol
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:16 AM
When did you first see a shrink?
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still didn't know I had DID but when Gavin came back things started getting suspect
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Gavin was just so different, and also had a lot of ptsd-like shit going on
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I actually knew I had DID for many months before I did, but it was just.... well, what's a shrink gonna do?
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my therapist agreed I had DID but I was already seeing her for other stuff, it didn't matter for insurance and whatnot, and there's no drug, and no real accomodations
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:17 AM
Therapists can't diagnose lol youre probably talking about your psychatrist?
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but eventually I figured it would be nice just to have a real formal paper so I went and got a full physch work up
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no, no psychatrist
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she didn't dx me but she was just like "yeah that sounds like what it is", she'd actually had a relationship with both Cassidy and Gavin, she's real hip
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:18 AM
Yeah that sounds like a smart move on your part to get the documentation
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Dx lol
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Ive never heard that term before but I like it
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he talked to me for like twenty minutes that I should become a psychologist like him, the shrink did
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huh, I hear dx for "diagnose" or "diagnosis" all the time
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:19 AM
Never heard it lol
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rx for prescribe and dx for diagnose
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:19 AM
Ive heard rx
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Didn't I also say it sounds like you'd enjoy being a psychologist lol
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:20 AM
I know id be a good one but I don't think its for me
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he was impressed I knew about Carl Sagan
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he had a quote from him on the wall
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:21 AM
The astronomer?
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that place was pretty nice but it was slightly creepy because they do that electroshock stuff
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and yeah
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and I saw the room with the shock chair
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:21 AM
Jesus Christ
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They still do that huh?
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as a sorta last-ditch effort for certain things, yeah
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:21 AM
Yeah I mean
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But fuck
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There!?
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where else? are they supposed to have a secret dungeon?
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:22 AM
Yes
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Exactly that
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it was a hospital
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:22 AM
I can't believe those things are still legal
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They fuck you up
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I'm actually not going to knock it too hard, I know a lot of people have been fucked up by them, but I have also heard quite a number of stories of people with persistent severe clinical depression who got their lives back
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but on autistic people, and people with mood disorders? yikes
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:24 AM
Don't they like kind of destroy your IQ
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....heavy doses of many psych meds will do that too
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and will also kill your liver and harm your gut health in many cases
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it's a shitshow all around
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:24 AM
Aren't the effects of all psych meds reversed when you stop taking them?
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:25 AM
Aside from the liver thing
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the studies on lithium are pretty scary even
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